Solo Sailing vs Free Solo Climbing — If You Love It, You’ve Gotta Do It

What do solo ocean sailing and free solo climbing have in common?

In this conversation with solo circumnavigator Jerome Rand, we explore the real risks, the mental game, and the deep pull toward adventure that doesn’t make sense on paper — but makes perfect sense in the heart.

For everyday athletes in their 40s, 50s, and 60s wondering how to keep pursuing meaningful challenges — this episode hits deep.

Because at some point, the question isn’t “Is it safe?”
It’s: Do I love it enough to do it anyway?

If this resonates, the full conversation is available wherever you get your podcasts. It goes much deeper. 

🎧 What’s More Dangerous: Free Solo Climbing or Sailing Alone Around the World — and What Risk Can Teach Us

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